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Logitech Squeezebox Touch

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  • Listen to an infinite variety of Internet radio stations, online music services, and your iTunes collection through your existing home stereo with this easy-to-use Wi-Fi music player
  • Enjoy easy station and music control from anywhere in the room with a full-color touch screen, intuitive menus and remote
  • Experience full, rich sound supported by high-resolution encoding
  • Connect seamlessly to your home network through Wi-Fi or Ethernet, and also to connect to other Squeezebox players
  • Part number 930-000074 or 930-000090 may be shipped, as these are identical products

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Logitech Squeezebox Touch. The color touch-screen Wi-Fi music player that lets you discover a world of musicâ€"all through your stereo.

List Price: $ 299.99 Price: $ 234.98


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194 of 206 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Highest quality wireless audio streamer in its price class, April 15, 2010
By 
C. Razzell "dsdreamer" (California, United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Logitech Squeezebox Touch (Electronics)
I purchased my Squeezebox Touch directly from Logitech, and have enjoyed it enough over the first few days of ownership to write a quick review.

To understand where I'm coming from, it may help to know I enjoy classical music, especially when its reproduced by a traditional stereo system with high quality discrete components. I own a British designed and built integrated amplifier and some tall floor-standing speakers from a Canadian manufacturer. Sound quality matters a whole lot to my enjoyment of music, and that shows in the care with which I select the components in my audio system.

I have owned a number of Logitech's previous Squeezebox WiFi streamers, including the Squeezebox Classic and some Duet receivers, so I am not new to the Squeezebox ecosystem. I keep my music collection as a large library of FLAC-encoded files, so as to avoid any potential losses due to codec compression artifacts.

On receiving my new Squeezebox Touch, I swapped out an existing "Slimdevices" branded classic Squeezebox in my main HiFi system for the new device. The Squeezebox Touch first discovered MySqueezebox.com as its source of music and asked me to provide login credentials, which caused it to upgrade its firmware from that site. After that, it rebooted and was able to connect to my local Squeezebox Server that I have running to serve music around the house. After that, I was able to browse my music collection and navigate to internet radio stations either using the touch interface or by using the supplied remote control.

I noticed that the interface automatically uses bigger fonts if you are controlling it from the IR remote and smaller ones if it finds you are controlling it via the touchscreen, which obviously makes sense when you are within an arm's length of the display.

As a first test, I played back a 96kHz, 24-bit high resolution copy of Marianne Thorsen on violin with the TrondheimSolistene playing Mozart's D-major Violin Concerto. At first I played the tracks via a Benchmark DAC1, which is a studio-quality monitoring DAC for use by mixing engineers. The sound was detailed, rich with a deep stereo image and musically involving. Next, I removed the Benchmark DAC from the signal path and tried again. Once again the sound was clearly better than a CD could provide and very close to that rendered through the Benchmark DAC. There has clearly been an improvement to the quality of the analog stereo outputs compared to previous Squeezebox versions, which was already pretty good.

I then went on to listen to Emanuel Ax, Itzhak Perlman and Yo-Yo Ma playing some Mendelssohn Piano Trios. This recording was "only" in 16-bit/44.1kHz CD quality audio, nevertheless I was soon captivated by the musicality of the performance, and could find no significant short comings of the quality as rendered by the built-in DACs compared to the external, studio quality Benchmark DAC1.

Someone starting to use this system without prior experience of Squeezebox Servers or software might face something of a learning curve to begin with. I can't speak to that, but I appreciate that I was able to drop this new device into an existing system and, within a few minutes, start to enjoy some very high quality reproduction of my music library.

The advantages over the previous Squeezebox Classic are:
* Color, touch-controlled user interface and display
* Ability to play back high resolution music without loss of quality
* Excellent audio quality from the analog outputs; significantly better than previous versions.

Another possible advantage is to use the Squeezebox Touch as a music server as well as a client, by attaching a USB hard drive to the supplied USB port. I have not tested this functionality, so I can't comment on how well it works. This review was mainly focussed on sound quality.

Based on my short experience, I recommend this device highly. I think it is a worthy successor to the Squeezebox Classic, as it provides significantly more in terms user interface and sound quality for the same retail price as the older player.
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77 of 80 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Amazing device; this new generation Squeezebox has great sound too, April 29, 2010
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A. Altman "Art" (San Carlos, California United States) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Logitech Squeezebox Touch (Electronics)
This is an amazing product. It is my first Squeezebox product - really my first attempt at home to do computer based audio outside of just using iTunes and plugging my computer headphone jack into a stereo, which is great fun and sounds just OK - no where as much fun or as great sounding as the Touch.

I have been waiting for a product that I could use in my audiophile home stereo. Logitech SB Transporter seemed like a good bet but it was a bit expensive (00) and reviews described a quality of sound (lean, detailed) that is not my cup of tea. I'm a tube guy. Love LP's, love tube amps. Sweet lifelike sound.

If you are at all curious about computer based audio to feed your home stereo, you can stop reading here. Just buy this thing. It is amazing. It is not perfect. Some aspects of it are easier to configure than others. But for me, and I know for a lot of other people, it is a life changing experience as regards my use of music in my home.

I "rip" cds into iTunes using Apple lossless for computer playback and at a 256 bit rate for small capacity iPods. They both sound excellent when played by the Touch, either via analog out or via digital into a third party DAC.

This product is MOSTLY very easy to set up and use. It found my wifi network quickly, and it found the iTunes library on my Mac quickly. I am getting internet radio stations from all over the world. The sound from the analog outputs is now - with this new generation Squeezebox - EXTREMELY good. It has great tonality and is very lifelike. I'm comparing my superb Cary cd player (the 308T with tube output stage) to the the analog outs of the Touch and also to the digital out of the Touch into a Bryston BDA-1 DAC. The Bryston is winning awards, and it sounds incredible, (over k new, around 00 used). I use the digital out of the Touch to feed the Bryston and it sounds fantastic. It is very close to my awesome Cary cd player (00 new plus upgraded tubes).

But the analog out of the Touch also sounds excellent. The Bryston and my Cary CD player both have a bit more detail and place the instruments and singers more distinctly in a sound-stage, and they have a little bit tighter bass, BUT BUT BUT the Touch analog output stage - for just 0 - has excellent tonality, excellent detail, deep and well controlled bass..... It is shockingly good. I may or may not get a 3rd party DAC for my home stereo (the Bryston is borrowed from a friend) but I don't feel that I NEED to.

I bought a second Touch to use in my bedroom stereo. I am keeping the first one in my main high end audio system. As I say, I may or may not end up adding a third party DAC in the latter system, not sure, but certainly not for the bedroom system.

Caution: I am having some trouble configuring some aspects of this device, such as controlling it from my computer. The basic functionality is working great. The Touch is taking music off the server on my Mac, no problem. And also I'm playing music off an SDHC card in the Touch (the first Squeezebox to offer this functionality, as I understand). Feeding the Touch directly with an external hard drive is working hit or miss. Trying to use the computer based "player" for the Touch is mostly miss.

The remote is great. When you start to use the remote the characters on the screen get bigger - it's perfect.

There is apparently a community of programmers that build third party apps for this thing. I've not yet begun to explore that. Some are free and some have nominal charge.

I am giving this 5 stars because it is a fantastic device; mostly easy to configure, sounds great, sounds even better when feeding an external DAC, and downright life-changing when it comes to home entertainment. I am tempted to deduct a star because of some aspects that appear buggy or hard to configure but I just can't do it.

The Touch ain't perfect, but it is fantastic.
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55 of 56 people found the following review helpful
5.0 out of 5 stars Another Happy Audiophile, October 14, 2010
By 
granger (Ithaca, NY USA) - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Logitech Squeezebox Touch (Electronics)
Say goodbye to cd players and tuners. They are now history; no matter how much you've spent for them. I've just eliminated mine from my equipment rack. Now I'm sure there's some small improvements to be had here and there with some multi-thousand dollar gear, but for us common folk this is truly the only way to go. I've been a rabid though frugal audiophile for 40 years and this is the best.

Even without adding an outboard DAC this little unit surpasses my highly regarded 0 cd player. Not only does it get the frequency balance and microdetails right, but the sound stage is focused and spacious. AND even with the best cd player there's no way to put together playlists or play uninterupted music. If you've got a home theater receiver, compare both the digital and analog outputs because you will likely find the DAC in the Touch superior to your receiver. But before you do, break in the Touch for a couple of days to get the best sound quality from it.

And unless you've got an outdoor antenna and mega buck FM tuner the Touch will also far surpass anything you've ever heard from your FM tuner or receiver; plus you've got an absurd amount of stations to choose from.

Ok, now for some advice. Rip your collection to an uncompressed format or you'll never get really good sound. All the advice I've seen suggests using FLAC encoding. Its bit perfect and takes about half the space of using WAV files and is easily tagged - and its easily decoded by the Touch. Ripping your collection is a time consuming process. I highly recommend using dbpoweramp ripping software. It will rip to FLAC and it works to get the best copy of the cd that it can. Most important though is that you get a subscription to perfect meta which has had proper tagging info and album art for even my most obscure disks. Believe me doing a good job ripping your collection can eat up your time without the right software. Dbpoweramp is really valuable for this job and worth every dime!!

The easiest way to go is just to put your music on an external CD drive and use this with the squeezebox server built right into the Touch. If you've got a thousand cd's, 500gb of drive should more than take care of you. The Touch has a few limitation in terms of playlist size and how many other squeezeboxes it will support - but its got none of the difficulties or drawbacks of using an NAS server or your PC. But you MUST use a usb cd drive that provides its own power. If you have one that draws it power from the usb cable then get a powered hub and hook your drive into that and then hook the hub into the Touch. It takes maybe an hour to index the drive at first but then its done. Leave the drive on all the time and be sure to get one that goes into standby mode when its not used.
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Update 10/22/10
As I've gotten more of my disks ripped into FLAC files (about 900+ albums now)I'm finding I've reached the limits of the USB drive capabilities. Its just too slow, hesitates on music, etc. Running the Squeezebox server on my Vista computer worked fine, but I went ahead and got a Synology 210j network storage device because I really didn't want to have to turn on a computer to play music. I'd only recommend doing that if you're technically inclined but I will attest to the fact that Synology runs squeezebox just fine. Evidently you need a NAS with at least 128mb of memory and not all low price servers have that much.
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